We have been asked a few questions from WA Lot Owners about overdue strata levies. These have been answered by Jordan Dinga, Abode Strata and our Strata Martyr.
Question: A lot owner’s personal financial problems have lead to overdue strata levies. Everyone in the building knows of the problem. Is this a privacy issue?
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Our Strata scheme of 16 owners has one owner who has personal financial problem which have lead to overdue strata levies.
The Strata Manager has passed the problem to the Council of Owners. Consequently, all the lot owners and residents are aware of the personal financial problems via COO meeting minutes and by word of mouth.
I thought the Council of Owners didn’t get involved with Strata Fee collection and that it was the Strata Manager’s area of responsibility. The Family who is behind in payments are now aware that all their neighbours know of their personal issues. It has been highly upsetting for all involved.
Should this information not have been kept private? Can you please advise if this is how it should be?
Answer: It is standard practice that the lot owners position is included within the AGM Agenda Financials.
Having shared ownership in strata titled property is very similar in shared ownership of a business. Do you think you would have the right to know that your business partner is not meeting the contributions all parties agreed upon in order to protect your investment? The cash flow of your property relies on payments by all lot owners. What if all of a sudden you don’t have enough funds to pay the insurance renewal?
At any time, with notice, an owner is allowed to inspect the strata company records – which would bring to light the financial position of all owners.
It is also standard practice that the lot owners position is included within the AGM Agenda Financials. The Strata Manager bringing it to the Strata Councils attention is very standard so that the council can decide how they want to deal with it. Note that the Strata Manager makes no decisions. It isn’t their position to do so. We provide best practice options and assist under instructions.
I can appreciate that everyone has difficulties paying bills from time to time. I am the first to have sympathy for some owners when we deal with cost recovery. But it shouldn’t ever be to the detriment of other owners and there are systems in place for that purpose.
So ultimately to answer your question it sounds like everything is as it should be.
This post appears in Strata News #253
Jordan Dinga
Abode Strata
P: 08 9368 2221
E: [email protected]
Question: Do you have any information on charging interest on overdue strata levies? We have one owner who is 10 quarters behind and the property is now in administration.
Do you have any information on charging interest on overdue strata levies? We have one owner who is 10 quarters behind and the property is now in administration.
The council members originally started charging 15% interest simply by adding 15% to each quarter that was overdue. But now we think this was incorrect and that there is a formula to use. We are located in WA.
Answer: An unpaid levy attracts 15% a year if not paid within 14 days after it’s due. This annual amount is calculated as a daily rate to coincide with the number of days overdue.
10 Quarters is a long time between drinks. Possibly this owner does not believe they have to pay levies?
Your annual budget not receiving those funds would have put a strain on cash flow to a point where the strata company has not been able to function as per the wish of the Strata Company agreed at a general meeting.
Section 36 (4) (b) refers to interest being charged on late levies. Firstly my advice would be to pursue this debt through a Strata Lawyer.
An unpaid levy attracts interest at the rate of 15% simple interest a year if not paid within 14 days after it’s due. This annual amount is calculated as a daily rate to coincide with the number of days overdue.
When an amount comes due another 14 days applies before late payment interest starts to be calculated. A calculation whereas 365 days of the year are incorporated simple interest is an annual amount and the amount of days overdue indicates the amount of simple interest charged. This is not compounded interest in which the principal amount (Levy) being charged increases daily and is then charged interest on that increased amount.
Simple interest means the amount of interest that can be accumulated daily against the outstanding amount and depending on the number of days overdue is calculated and added on to the principal amount (Levy) for payment.
Each quarterly levy would be different, as the first quarterly levy is now 2.5 years overdue. Overdue levies should not get to this stage and should be pursued sooner. I am not an account or lawyer, I am a Strata Manager.
An accountant to work this out for you and a Lawyer to send a letter of demand would be prudent. To get some idea of what those amounts may be I would recommend a “simple interest calculator” off the internet.
All matters discussed above can be deemed of a legal nature and as such, not being a lawyer or accountant all advice given is deemed my general opinion only and I take no responsibility for any omissions or mistakes. Clarification is at your discretion as I would seek clarification myself it the matter was under my management.
This post appears in Strata News #160.
Strata Martyr
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Quite often, when someone attempts to keep certain information about them self under wraps, like the unpaid amount of their strata levies, it only bursts open the floodgates, where far many more people then become apprised of the situation than would have been the case if the person wanting to keep a lid on things had just kept quiet about it. A classic example of this is when Barbara Streisand, in 2003, attempted to suppress photographs of her home in Malibu, California.
Prior to Streisand launching her unsuccessful US$50 million lawsuit against photographer Kenneth Adelman and Pictopia.com for violation of privacy, Adelman’s photograph of her mansion had been downloaded from his website only six times, with two of these having been done by Streisand’s lawyers, but because of Streisand’s ludicrous lawsuit, which probably every man and his (news)hound soon got to hear about, more than 420,000 people visited Adelman’s site the following month. There’s no such thing as badinage_d publicity.
Hi Janine. Don’t be surprised if the decision made by the owners of Units 1 & 2 in your strata complex to engage the services of a strata manager involves a builder/developer who may be hoping that your now being expected to meet the cost of these regular strata levies and fees will cause you to eventually want — or simply have no option but — to sell and move away. If you’re able to, try to find out why the owner of Unit 2 suddenly up and sold and moved away only 2 weeks after employing the strata manager given this previous owner, who was keenly in cahoots with the owner of Unit 1 to employ a strata manager, must have had a rough idea of what the strata levies and fees would amount to. If this previous owner says anything like “…it was the new high costs of strata levies and fees that made me want to sell and move away.”, it could show promise that something $neaky is at play. It wouldn’t hurt for you to contact the “Office of the Public Advocate” to see if those employed there are able to assist you in any way, and even if they can’t directly, it’s odds-on they will be able to put you in touch with not only someone who can, but perhaps also an authoritative body who might be already well ahead of the game waiting for any vulture$ (who may have an eye on your Unit’s lot) to pounce. One really can’t be too careful in matters such as this. Best of luck to you.
Hi everybody,
I live in a set of 3 x Villas in WA. I bought my Villa in 2011. I knew absolutely nothing about “Strata” and don’t even remember “Strata” being explained to me when I bought my property. I live in number 3. The wife of the owners of #1- was doing the Strata Managing for free when I bought my property right up until 2018. There is only 3 x Villas which do not warrant the services of a paid Strata Manager. The Wife decided she no longer wanted to be the Strata Manager and between her and her best friend who lived in #2, went ahead and organised for us to pay a Strata Manager. I was dead against the idea but #1 and #2 had the majority over me so a Strata Manager was hired without my consent. Two weeks after this, the lady in #2 sold her Villa and moved away leaving me stuck with a paid Strata Manager. I am home 24/7 and am a qualified Administrator. I offered to take over Managing our 3 x Villas for FREE but the wife in number #1 wanted to go all official and ignored my offer. I know Strata Management can be quite involved but like I said, there is only 3 x of us in the complex. I even offered to do an online quickie course in Strata Management, its not Rocket Science.To cut a very long unhappy story short, I am now very ill with Diabetes, Major Depression and failing Kidneys. I have worked from the age of 18 to 56 when unfortunately, due to my serious illnesses, was deemed unfit to work any further and I haven’t. I am now on a permanent “Disability Support Pension” and have to live on $450 a week to cover everything you could possibly think of including a Mortgage. I cannot meet at least 50% of my financial obligations. Last week I got a bill from the Strata Manager for $1032.16 which is $732.16 for Insurance + $300 for Fees due without fail in 9 x days.
I cannot pay this bill, its as simple as that. I am currently writing an email to the “Strata Community Association” asking if there is any form of exemption, discount, repayment plans or even waiving the bill due to illness and poverty in their Rules, Regulations or Policies. I am 60 x years old, I cannot lose my home, its all Ive got. If I lose my home, I will be become homeless. If I become Homeless, I will die within the first week. I am honestly not bragging – why would I but I suffer from 14 x different serious illnesses, conditions and disorders.
How and who can I approach about my dire and desperate situation.
I am a 10th Generation Australian with 2 x Grandfathers serving in the War 11. I cannot possibly be punished for being ill. I am so frightened this Strata Manager has the power to take away my home, Im having at least 6 x debilitating Panic Attacks a day due to the stress of this $1032.16 bill.
I do not nor will I ever have the money to pay this bill – end of story.
Please help me!.
Kindest thanks,
Janine.
As discussed aboved, there are different components that make up an overdue amlount that needs to be paid up to wipe the slate clean.
The various components can include:-
(1) the levy itself
(2) the simple interst on the overdue levy
(3) amouht that is charged by debt collection activities
(4) adminstrative amount that is charged to the Strata Company (by the Strata Managing Agent) that is on charged to the lot.
Being late for levies can render a person being unable to vote at meetings. Current STA (1985) Standard Schedule 1 14(6) says “no proprietor is entitled to vote at any general meeting unless all contributions payable in respect of his lot have been duly paid and any other moneys recoverable under the Act”……
Does this contribution include
(1) money owed to the Strata Company as a result of by-law breach?
(2) money owed to the Strata Company as a result of enforcing a by-law? For example, Strata Company has a debt recovery costs on-charging by-law, and the lot has incurred charges due to debt recovery activity.
(2) money owed to the Strata Company as a result of an agreement under STA section 37(1)(g)?
Lastly, does a council member need to be financial to vote in a Council of Owners meeting?
Thank you for your insights.
I have recently been hit with over due levies for two quarters.
Levies are $405 a quarter with $82 for sending a notice and $15 interest.
My overdues amount is around $250 which I am trying to break down.
Basically my unit was vacant for a few months and being managed by a real estate agent. I put in $1500 after a few months to cover various expenses.
Its only after I reviewed my bank statement that I found the extra cost and subsequently found out there was an ongoing email war between the real estate and the strata manager which I was unaware.of.
Is there any where I can go to get some resolution on this
Hi Alan
We have received the following reply back from Strata Martyr:
Section 36 (4)(b) is the section of the Strata Titles Act you refer to.
The prescribed rate of interest on late payment of levies is 15% simple interest.
The other charges you describe relate to administration. The simple rate can be calculated daily from the time it is overdue.
You should contact the Strata Management company and ask for a breakdown of the account if they haven’t given it to you already. Ask them how they worked out your late payment Interest.
In a separate correspondence to “The Council of Owners” ask them if they will consider waiving the interest as you have been the victim of poor service from your property manager who has poorly managed and it was never your intention to avoid payment.
The real charges here are the debt collection administration ask the Council of Owners to stop pursuing the overdue debt till ratification at the next general meeting can be gained. At the general meeting, there would be an agenda item indicating that your lot was seeking to have late payment interest waved. I doubt if the Management Company will waive their $82 fee as they have already done the work.
You should:
* pay your levy bar the late payment fees;
* Ask your Council of Owners to instruct the Strata Manager’s debt collection to cease on your lot for overdue interest.
* Request that your late payment interest fees be waived at the AGM.
* Alternately pay everything and pursue the above as reimbursement to avoid additional cost from the Strata Manager’s debt collection procedures.
A Strata Company has the ability to introduce its own late payment policy at a general meeting if owners agree.
Strata Martyr
How frustrating for you Alan
It can be confusing.
Do remember that ALL OWNERS form the STRATA COMPANY – that includes you.
The “Strata Manager”, or probably strata management company, may have duties delegated to it but is only authorised to make charges and deductions as agreed in the contract. The management agreement should be available for you to look at if you wish to check the fees they are charging the strata company (all owners as a single entity).
Generally, to on-charge administration fees to individual owners required a motion at each AGM or a by-law to be registered on the strata plan.
However, interest is charged from the due date, which on your quarterly levy is ~$15 therefore your owner account will show (for example)
$405.00 DR due date Q1
405.00 DR due date Q2
15.19 DR interest 15% (for x days – roughly 3 months) between due dates Q1&Q2
If you have paid the first levy then the interest stops but you may owe interest on the unpaid period for two lots of levies which may not appear until due date Q3
There are assumptions that the strata company (or it’s delegate) should deal with property managers but even though in practice this happens and often not well, the legal responsibility remains with the individual owner.
The easiest way to resolve this is to
> Pay the overdue levies Q1&Q2 plus the outstanding interest as soon as possible;
> contact the strata management company representative know you have now received strata advice (rather than property manager advice), are better informed about your rights and responsibilities and apologise for the misunderstanding (that should make them better disposed to listen to you).
> request quarterly levy notices are emailed direct to you (and you take responsibility for payment by forwarding to the property manager (if rented), or pay direct (if vacant).
Note: that although it is customary for levy notices to be issued quarterly, under the Strata Titles Act 1985 there is no requirement for this to occur – notification of due dates in the minutes of an AGM is sufficient!
> ask that in this instance the admin charges be waived and that the council of owners be contacted to obtain this.
If (and only if) the representative refuses or is very difficult, request IN WRITING, details of the by-law or motion approving on-charging of fees, that was approved by the majority of owners at a properly convened annual general meeting.
Finally, be a little more active with your investment. Property is valuable and is worth the average 30 minutes a month to ensure you know what is going on. Read through the agenda and appoint a proxy for meetings if you can’t take an hour each year to attend. When minutes of that meeting arrive do read them. If there’s anything you don’t understand – ask for clarification.
I love strata and see the value of making our investments (whether as owner or investor) work hard for us. However, oversight is really best done by an interested party – usually the owner.
All the best!
We have received this comment via email from Jeff Smith, Exclusive Strata Management:
Your article raises a very topical issue that we have been discussing in our office.
The Act actually states that interest applies from the due date not 14 days after the due date.
We had previously allowed 14 days prior to applying interest, however, as this would appear to contradict the Act we have recently reverted to applying interest if the debt is not paid by the due date.
In WA, The Strata Titles Act 1985 section 36(4) states in relation to levy contributions that:
(4) Any contribution levied under this section —
(a) becomes due and payable to the strata company in
accordance with the terms of the decision to make the
levy; and
(b) if not paid when it becomes due and payable, bears
interest on the amount unpaid at the rate of simple
interest prescribed, unless the company determines
(either generally or in a particular case) that an unpaid
contribution shall bear no interest or interest at a lesser
rate; and
(c) including interest accrued under paragraph (b), may be
recovered as a debt by the strata company in a court of
competent jurisdiction and the strata company may
agree to a compromise of such a debt.
The prescribed amount is specified in the Strata Titles General Regulations 1996 section 26 which states:
“The prescribed rate of interest under section 36(4)(b) is 15%.”
In practical terms, when and if the property is sold, the agent should be made aware that there are outstanding amounts owed to the strata company. The Section 43 certificate should clearly indicate the amount outstanding against the property (including the interest). These sums, along with any other outstanding amounts against the property must be paid on or before settlement.
Simply put, simple interest is a daily calculation based on the original amount of the debt. With simple interest we do not compound (ie add) the prior interest charges to the original debt.
For the simple interest calculation, it will be best to calculate the interest accrued on each debt separately and then add all of the accrued interest together. Accrued interest is just the interest we calculate as being owing.
I have created a simple spreadsheet which will help you calculate these values. I am happy to provide such to you directly or through the operators of this web page.
I do not live in WA and thus I can not attest to whether the 15% interest your council has decided to charge is valid. Also given that the owner is now in administration, you will need to lodge a formal claim of debt with the administrators and there may be rules around how much interest they will be able to pay (eg they may only be liable for interest after the date of their appointment). Best speak to a lawyer regarding all of this.
Additional information supplied by David White, uploaded by LookUpStrata Admin:
Body Corporate – Late Penalties – Simple Interest Spreadsheet
Hi David
Thanks for your response.
It would be great to include a link to your spreadsheet in the article as a resource. Do you mind sending it through to me at [email protected] and I will upload it as a PDF at the bottom of your comment?
Thanks
Nikki