This article discussing the controversial topic of smoking in strata buildings has been provided by Leanne Habib, Premium Strata.
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- QUESTION: Our smoking bylaw states ‘No smoking in all common areas AND No Smoking inside your own apartment’. Is this bylaw legal in NSW and if not can it be removed?
- QUESTION: How do we handle the other duplex lot owners who smoke outside their lot. Smoke drifts over the dividing fence and into my ageing father’s lot.
- QUESTION: For the last few months, the tenant in the apartment above ours regularly sits and has a smoke on the balcony. Their smoking causes smoke drift into our flat each time they smoke on the balcony. What can we do?
- QUESTION: I finally managed to get a copy of the by-laws for my building and we don’t have ‘smoking bylaws’. Does this mean people are free to smoke throughout the building?
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Question: Our smoking bylaw states ‘No smoking in all common areas AND No Smoking inside your own apartment’. Is this bylaw legal in NSW and if not can it be removed?
We live in a high rise apt block and a few years ago we voted against a no smoking building, but we are not allowed to smoke in all common areas.
Our building has a reasonably large amount of tenanted apartments. Most residents are unaware of the Bylaw stating ‘No smoking in all common areas AND No Smoking inside your own apartment’.
The bylaw clearly states that Owners, tenants, or friends are not allowed to smoke inside your own apartment under any Circumstances.
Is this bylaw legal in NSW and if not can it be removed?
Answer: The by-law could be construed as “harsh” or “oppressive”.
The smoking provisions of the strata legislation relate to the “nuisance” that is caused by smoke drift and the new Schedule 3 by-laws restrict smoke penetration to lot and common property.
We have not seen a blanket prohibition on smoking anywhere on lot or common property challenged or upheld. The by-law could be construed as “harsh” or “oppressive” and invalidated on that basis ie that it is harsh that smoking is prohibited within a lot provided that smoke does not escape.
This post appears in Strata News #376.
Question: How do we handle the other duplex lot owners who smoke outside their lot. Smoke drifts over the dividing fence and into my ageing father’s lot.
We are looking for information about how to handle the other lot owners who smoke in the back yard of their duplex. The smoke drifts over the dividing fence into my ageing father’s lot. The neighbours smoke in an area that is roughly 3m away from his back door and bedroom. This is particularly an issue as he is on the dust disease register.
We have tried NCAT but the matter was rejected in the Administrative Tribunal.
Answer: Smoking could be construed as a trespass, a private nuisance and constitute a violation of your father’s right to quiet enjoyment of his property.
On the assumption you do not wish to further pursue your rights through NCAT, depending on the strength of your evidence, smoking could be construed as a trespass, a private nuisance and constitute a violation of your father’s right to quiet enjoyment of his property.
This post appears in Strata News #353.
Question: For the last few months, the tenant in the apartment above ours regularly sits and has a smoke on the balcony. Their smoking causes smoke drift into our flat each time they smoke on the balcony. What can we do?
For the last few months, the tenant in the apartment above ours regularly sits and has a smoke on the balcony.
Their smoking causes smoke drift into our flat each time they smoke on the balcony. We know it’s them because we hear their sliding door and can see their reflection in the windows of the opposite building.
During the day and evening, we like to have our balcony door and bedroom windows open to allow fresh air to circulate and find that we are needing to close these every time the tenant has a smoke on the balcony (which can be in the 10’s during the weekend days).
I am also an asthmatic whose asthma is triggered by smoke and therefore find this to be a wider health issue and nuisance and would like to know what we can do.
Answer: We do not know whether your building has the smoke drift by-law, we confirm that the legislation virtually regulates same.
While we do not know whether your building has the smoke drift by-law, we confirm that the legislation virtually regulates same – see highlighted section below:
153 Owners, occupiers and other persons not to create nuisance
- An owner, mortgagee or covenant chargee in possession, tenant or occupier of a lot in a strata scheme must not:
- use or enjoy the lot, or permit the lot to be used or enjoyed, in a manner or for a purpose that causes a nuisance or hazard to the occupier of any other lot (whether that person is an owner or not), or
- use or enjoy the common property in a manner or for a purpose that interferes unreasonably with the use or enjoyment of the common property by the occupier of any other lot (whether that person is an owner or not) or by any other person entitled to the use and enjoyment of the common property, or
- use or enjoy the common property in a manner or for a purpose that interferes unreasonably with the use or enjoyment of any other lot by the occupier of the lot (whether that person is an owner or not) or by any other person entitled to the use and enjoyment of the lot.
Note: Depending on the circumstances in which it occurs, the penetration of smoke from smoking into a lot or common property may cause a nuisance or hazard and may interfere unreasonably with the use or enjoyment of the common property or another lot.
- This section does not operate to prevent the due exercise of rights conferred on a developer by the operation of section 82 of the Strata Schemes Development Act 2015.
Division 1 of Part 6 contains provisions about the circumstances in which owners of lots may carry out work that affects common property.
Seeking orders from NCAT
You may wish to seek orders from NCAT to prohibit the smokers from smoking (mediation must first be attempted), or you might wish to request that the Owners Corporation pass a non-smoking or smoke-drift by-law.
Leanne Habib
Premium Strata Pty Ltd
P: 02 9281 6440
E: [email protected]
This article is not intended to be personal advice and you should not rely on it as a substitute for any form of advice.
This post appears in Strata News #182.
Question: I finally managed to get a copy of the by-laws for my building and we don’t have ‘smoking bylaws’. Does this mean people are free to smoke throughout the building?
I live in an apartment block in Sydney, NSW. The block is new and I was one of the first to move in three months ago. As more of the apartments have become inhabited, people have started smoking in the common areas. This includes the ground floor foyer, corridors on the upper floors and even in the lift. Is this allowed under strata laws?
I have read the information on the model by-laws, which as I understand are guidelines and not legislation, so owners corporations can set their own by-laws. I finally managed to get a copy of the by-laws for my building and there aren’t any ‘smoking bylaws’ – nothing in there regarding smoking. Does this lack of smoking bylaws mean people are free to smoke throughout the building?
And if so, what can we do to make our building a smoke free apartment building?
Answer: A model bylaw regarding nuisance would either have to be adopted at registration if a new scheme or by the owners corporation at a later time.
Sounds like a horrible situation if people are smoking not just outdoors and in their lots but in areas such as the lift.
I note that:
There’s a model smoking bylaw regarding nuisance smoking – see below – this would either have to be adopted at registration if a new scheme or by the owners corporation at a later time.
The cancer council has great resources on smoking and useful smoking bylaws within apartments blocks – Achieving Smoke Free Apartment Living
Even without a specific by-law, smoking in such a way as described will generally fall under the definition of ‘nuisance’ and give rise for an occupant to take action under this section against the owners/owners corporation – SECT 153 Owners, occupiers and other persons not to create nuisance
9 SMOKE PENETRATION
Note: Select option A or B. If no option is selected, option A will apply.
OPTION A
- An owner or occupier, and any invitee of the owner or occupier, must not smoke tobacco or any other substance on the common property.
- An owner or occupier of a lot must ensure that smoke caused by the smoking of tobacco or any other substance by the owner or occupier, or any invitee of the owner or occupier, on the lot does not penetrate to the common property or any other lot.
OPTION B
- An owner or occupier of a lot, and any invitee of the owner or occupier, must not smoke tobacco or any other substance on the common property, except:
- in an area designated as a smoking area by the owners corporation, or
- with the written approval of the owners corporation.
- A person who is permitted under this by-law to smoke tobacco or any other substance on common property must ensure that the smoke does not penetrate to any other lot.
- An owner or occupier of a lot must ensure that smoke caused by the smoking of tobacco or any other substance by the owner or occupier, or any invitee of the owner or occupier, on the lot does not penetrate to the common property or any other lot.
This post appears in Strata News #167.
Andrew Terrell
Bright & Duggan
E: [email protected]
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I live in an apartment block (for over 12 years now). I am a smoker, as is my partner. We have a large garden area (ground floor, away from the upper level balconies) in which we have smoked for those last 12 years, without a single complaints. New tenants have moved in and they like to keep their doors open 24/7 but also like to complain each and every time we have a cigarette. They’ve thrown water over my partner (sitting outside) and been both rude and abusive about the whole situation. I’d like to know, what are our rights? We’ve tried to cut down, we generally try to smoke outside the building now but as we both work very long weeks, we like to throw on our comfy attire (pjs) of a Fri/Sat night….have a glass of wine and a cigarette. We have lived here for so long and there’s never been issues till now. Our building is not a non smoking building and other people smoke also. Should I try to discuss the issue with our neighbours and offer a compromise? Would appreciate a response without being ostracised!😞
QUESTION: Who may move a motion to amend a motion? Can, for example, an owner present at the AGM, move a motion at the AGM to amend a motion put forward by the committee?
Just would like to mention that the committee can’t put forward motions. I know that might come as a surprise to many but there is no authority in the Act for the committee to do so. The Act creates a ‘class’ of person who can submit motions and typically in statutory interpretation if the statute creates a class it is to the exclusion of other classes.
There are other issues surrounding the concept the committee can include motions such as it creates an avenue for otherwise non entitled persons to get a motion on an agenda but the bottom line is there is no authority for the SC to put motions on an agenda.
The bylaw clearly states that Owners, tenants, or friends are not allowed to smoke inside your own apartment under any Circumstances.
Regrettably by-laws do not apply to visitors (friends). It is possible through a by-law to try to place responsibility for friends behaviors back onto a owner or occupier but the by-law would not apply directly to the friend.
Consider; how does the OC apply the by-law to a friend when the OC would have no idea who they are or where to serve a notice to comply to them.
As the owner has invited the friends, the penalty would apply to the owner.
An example, if I was overseas, and I had a friend minding my place, and my friend damaged the common property, it would be the owner’s fault to rectify as s/he invited the friend. It would up to the owner to seek redress from her or his friend. Not up to you to find out the details of this friend.
Hope that is clear.
Hi All,
I have emailed to Strata management three times about the strong toxic smoke in my apartment since 20 Mar 20. I have been waiting them the response. Building manager Colin came to my home to check the smoke on 5 June and sent a handyman Bob to replace seals for my windows and doors. Both Colin and Bob smelled the strong toxic passive smoke in my home from my apartment below and could not suffer for it. However, I suffer, struggle and stress for the strong toxic passive smoke in my home every day.
I live in level 12. A Chain-smoking person is living in my apartment below level 11. He smokes from earlier morning until at night after 1:45 am. Sometimes he smokes at 3:30 am or 5:30 am. After replaced the new seals for my windows and doors, I still smelled the toxic passive smoke. Every day the toxic passive smoke drift stay in my home for longer hours. I cannot sleep and my throat is very uncomfortable and sometime I cough a lot. Especially COVID-19 impacts, I need to stay at home longer time for Coronavirus pandemic. However, the toxic second-hand smoke is made my home unliveable.
In our building, high percentage of residents are tenants from overseas. They are overseas students or working visa holders. They smoke a lot and until mid-night. The passive smoke drift are also from another apartment. I close all my windows and doors and turn on my new Air Purifier in the strong button but the strong toxic smell still get into my home.
I am afraid to turn on my ceiling exhaust fan. That is because the passive smoke can get through from the exhaust fan into my home. Even though I do not turn on the exhaust fan, the passive smoke still can get in. Every night, I cannot sleep until smokers finished smoke around after 2:00 am. Then I open all my windows and doors to let the fresh air in and the passive smoke away from home during the chilly weather. But the Chain-smokers smoke again at the midnight. My apartment is full of passive smoke again. It is so frustrating.
Everyday I struggle and upset for the toxic second-hand smoke problem in my apartment. Now more people work at home as a second office. I extremely expect our apartment is a smoke-free apartment.
I believe that I am not the only one to face the toxic second-hand smoke problems in apartment. Please help us to stop the chain-smokers to cause of ill health, nuisances and hazard for us ASAP. Please set new laws to prohibit smoking in apartment so that we can enjoy our daily live in apartment.
Thank you and best regards,
YES HELEN I TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.DOES ANYONE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND WHERE CAN I GET CONTACT N0;
Hi Ian
This article about a recent smoking case may assist: https://www.lookupstrata.com.au/nsw-smoking-nuisance/
Hopefully the smoking prohibitions can be applied to the use of petrol powered leaf blowers – even though the SC is likely to have hired the perpetrator of this filthy, noisy and unnecessary methodology.
I’m in NSW, renting a unit and other tenants in the block smoke outside & on the balcony & the smoke drifts into my place. As I’m an asthmatic I find it very stressful. By the time I close windows & doors the smoke is inside. Do I have any rights here? I’ve contacted the agent who informs me the strata say our block doesn’t have the law to stop it. What about the new legislation introduced in NSW in 2016 about the new model by law (which must be adopted) regulating smoke drift? It offers 2 options A & B. If neither option is selected, option A will apply, stating no smoking on common property.
I relate fully to the situation of occupiers trying to enjoy their homes when smoke drift penetrates from units nearby. This situation is hazardous to health and an infringement on quiet enjoyment of our homes. In our units we have new tenants who smoke as do their visitors. This creates havoc for neighbors, who have no choice but to close doors and windows, and remain indoors or leave the premises, to avoid smoke. Strata units need a ban on all smoking, for the sake of the health and enjoyment of all residents.
Good afternoon, I’m in Queensland and I’m waiting for rhe day that cigarette smoking is banned in residential buildings. The elderly woman in the apartment below me smokes and all the units cop the smoke. It’s like a chimney effect and nobody likes it. It affects my health, too. When will something be done in every state to stop this situation?
I’ve written to Body Corporate and was advised to close my doors and put aircon on, that smokers have the right to smoke on their balconies and that I could move out.
Hello Leanne,
The Executive Committee of my strata has decided to delete the by-law regarding parking. This will cause chaos with some residents not being able to access their garages and others parking on the common property causing a third group to have to do several three point turns to both enter and exit their spots.
In your opinion is the omission of a parking by-law the same as an unjust by-law?
Restrictions on by-laws
The new strata legislation has enacted a new restriction on by-laws, namely, that a by-law cannot be unjust, harsh, unconscionable or oppressive.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Jo Daly
Hi Jo
Thanks for your question. We have received this response back from Leanne Habib, Premium Strata:
In our view, the absence of such a by-law is not “unjust” perhaps just unwise. There is no positive requirement for an owners corporation to have a parking by-law in place, however, it sounds as though this will cause chaos in your building. Further, it also sounds unlikely that the Owners Corporation will avail itself of its powers under the regulations to have obstructing vehicles removed.
You will likely need strata specialist legal assistance with this matter as there appear to be 2 courses of action open to you – apply to NCAT to have the by-law revived or apply to NCAT for a compulsorily appointed agent (if you meet with threshold that the scheme is dysfunctional)(the latter course is a high threshold).
In addition to the above, the offending vehicles parked on the common property may be in breach of the nuisance and hazard provisions of the strata legislation. Under such legislation no owner or occupier may use or enjoy the common property in a manner or for a purpose that interferes unreasonably with the use or enjoyment of any other lot by the occupier of the lot.