What are the new pet rules for strata? Pets still aren’t automatically allowed in strata schemes. Find out why you still need approval.
UPDATE April 2021: Despite the much anticipated “pet-friendly” amendments to the new strata legislation, animals are still not automatically permitted in strata schemes even if they are kept wholly within the boundaries of an individual’s apartment.
To determine what the keeping of animals position and pet rules for strata is in relation to any particular scheme you must refer to all the by-laws registered on the certificate of title for the common property.
UPDATE May 2020: Pets Now Allowed in Sydney Apartments Two of Sydney’s biggest apartment towers have won their battle to ban owners’ pets from their buildings in a verdict that will have far-reaching repercussions for NSW strata residents. Domain
Table of Contents:
- QUESTION: Why should owners who select and no pets by law have their decision overturned?
- QUESTION: Would it be okay if a NSW pet bylaw required people to get approval from the Strata Committee before they permitted an animal in the building?
- QUESTION: Can a “no pets” bylaw be valid on the grounds of resident’s allergies? Can the Owners Corporation demand medical evidence to prove the allergy actually exists?
- QUESTION: Our owners corporation are repealing the current by-law from requiring written permission to keep pets to Prohibiting the Keeping of Animals.
- QUESTION: Dogs at our complex yap for hours. The noise is driving me crazy but I’m not sure what I can do. Can you help?
- QUESTION: We have a no pets bylaw. We’ve seen NCAT will invalidate Strata bylaws that blanket ban pets. Will the current bylaw stand until another is voted on and registered?
- QUESTION: I’m in the process of purchasing an apartment. Can I get assurance pet approval will be granted before I buy the property?
- QUESTION: Are bylaws allowed to specifically prohibit ownership of dogs whilst cats and other animals are subject to approval?
- QUESTION: We are about to sign a rental agreement for an apartment. Other residents have pets but our application for 2 dogs has been rejected by the owners corporation. Is this legal?
- QUESTION: Does pet approval come with the apartment? If someone else moves into the apartment are they automatically approved to have two dogs if the previous person had two dogs?
- QUESTION: Due to complaints from one neighbour, our strata is trying to take us to court over our small dog. Other neighbours confirm the dog is fine. Do I have any right to keep the dog and not get taken to court?
- QUESTION: The previous lot owner had approval for a dog. I’ve just moved in. Does the pet approval apply to me or do I need to submit a new request for approval so I can have my dog at the unit?
- QUESTION: I have 3 dogs in a 2 bedroom apartment. I only have approval for one pet. I’ve received a letter about one of the dogs barking and told to remove one of the dogs. What can I do?
- QUESTION: The Strata Committee plans to rescind our Keeping of Pets bylaw. Do 75% of owners need to agree? Can an owner challenge the rescinding of Pets bylaw?
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Question: Why should owners who select and no pets by law have their decision overturned?
Answer: Even though you might want something, what you want in the eyes of the law is unreasonable, and therefore you just can’t have it.
This is a really good question and it was dealt with by the court in the Cooper case. There are many people out there who think they should be masters of their own destiny. So they should be able to decide whether their building will allow pets or be pet free.
But what you have to realise is that there are laws that place constraints on the ability of an owners corporation to make bylaws, including pets bylaws. What the Court has said is that those constraints make it impossible to have bylaws that impose blanket bans on pets, and that in the words of the court, a democratic will of the majority of owners doesn’t convert a democracy into a majoritarian dictatorship. So the court was sending a message to owners in strata land in New South Wales, that even though you might want something, what you want in the eyes of the law is unreasonable, and therefore you just can’t have it.
Adrian Mueller
Partner + Senior Lawyer
JS Mueller & Co Lawyers
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P: 02 9562 1266
This post appears in Strata News #467.
Question: Would it be okay if a NSW pet bylaw required people to get approval from the Strata Committee before they permitted an animal in the building?
Would it be okay if a bylaw required people to get approval from the Strata Committee before they permitted an animal in the building? This
would give the Strata Committee the ability to vet the animal first to try to
decide if it would be a nuisance and not, say, a prohibited breed of
dangerous dog like a bulldog etc.
Answer: Yes this is possible and indeed this is now the recommended pets by-law for most strata buildings.
Adrian Mueller
Partner + Senior Lawyer
JS Mueller & Co Lawyers
E: [email protected]
P: 02 9562 1266
This post appears in Strata News #464.
Question: Can a “no pets” bylaw be valid on the grounds of resident’s allergies? Can the Owners Corporation demand medical evidence to prove the allergy actually exists?
When our owners corporation has discussed allowing pets in our 60 lot strata building, two of the owners claimed to have an allergy to pet fur. Their claims have put an end to the discussion.
Can a “no pets” bylaw be valid on the grounds of resident’s allergies? Can the Owners Corporation demand medical evidence to prove the allergy actually exists?
Answer: A “no pets” by-law cannot be justified because some residents have pet allergies.
A “no pets” by-law cannot be justified because some residents have pet allergies. The presence of some residents with per allergies might provide a good reason for an owners corporation to reject an application for permission to keep a pet but this would depend on the specific circumstances.
Adrian Mueller
Partner + Senior Lawyer
JS Mueller & Co Lawyers
E: [email protected]
P: 02 9562 1266
This post appears in Strata News #461.
Question: Our owners corporation are repealing the current by-law from requiring written permission to keep pets to Prohibiting the Keeping of Animals.
We just received the AGM motions for this year’s meeting and surprisingly the owners corporation are repealing the current by-law from requiring written permission to keep pets to the below:
By Law XX – Prohibiting the Keeping of Animals:
An owner or occupier of a lot must not bring or keep any animal on the lot or the common property.
An owner or occupier of a lot must not permit any person including any invitee of the owner or occupier to bring or keep an animal on the lot of the common property.
This by-law does not prohibit or restrict the keeping on a lot of assistance animal used by an owner or occupier of the lot as an assistance animal or the use of an assistance animal for that purposes by a person on a lot or common property.
Answer: The proposed pets by-law is not likely to be enforceable due a recent case which says that a by-law banning pets is harsh and unenforceable.
If the building is in NSW, the proposed pets by-law that will be considered at the AGM is not likely to be enforceable due to the Court of Appeal decision in the Cooper case which says that a by-law banning pets is harsh and unenforceable.
Adrian Mueller
Partner + Senior Lawyer
JS Mueller & Co Lawyers
E: [email protected]
P: 02 9562 1266
This post appears in the March 2021 edition of The NSW Strata Magazine.
Question: Dogs at our complex yap for hours. The noise is driving me crazy but I’m not sure what I can do. Can you help?
I live in a very large Strata unit complex. There is an overload of dogs here – almost like a Canine Hotel – but all in all they are well mannered, however, there are that sometimes bark and yap for up to 5 hours at a time.
I find it to be very stressful but I am not sure what I can do. I have emailed the building manager on several occasions and I plan to speak with him in person. I am sure he has a large workload but these barking dogs are driving me crazy.
We also have problems with residents who don’t clean up after their dogs and the dogs that go to the toilet on patios. Not exactly hygienic for anyone in the building.
Answer: Should you wish to take the matter further, you could attempt mediation and then make an Application for Orders through NCAT.
Usually the strata by-laws would regulate matters such as odours and endless barking and clearly, the barking is causing you a nuisance.
Should you wish to take the matter further, you could attempt mediation and then make an Application for Orders through NCAT:
158 Order for removal of an animal permitted under by-laws
- The Tribunal may, on application by an interested person, make an order against a person who is keeping an animal on a lot or common property in accordance with the by-laws for a strata scheme, if the Tribunal considers that the animal causes a nuisance or hazard to the owner or occupier of another lot or unreasonably interferes with the use or enjoyment of another lot or of the common property.
- The Tribunal may order that the person:
- cause the animal to be removed from the parcel within a specified time, and be kept away from the parcel, or
- within a time specified in the order, take such action as, in the opinion of the Tribunal, will terminate the nuisance or hazard or unreasonable interference.
Alternatively, you could speak to the neighbours (they might not be aware) or make contact with your local council for advice and which may issue a nuisance order (and attracts penalties for non-compliance), or, you could seek a noise abatement order from your local court.
We trust the above has addressed your query.
Leanne Habib
Premium Strata
E: [email protected]
P: 02 9281 6440
This post appears in Strata News #450.
Question: We have a no pets bylaw. We’ve seen NCAT will invalidate Strata bylaws that blanket ban pets. Will the current bylaw stand until another is voted on and registered?
Answer: If an owners corporation applies to NCAT to enforce a “no pets” by-law through an order requiring a pet to be removed, NCAT will likely dismiss the application.
The recent Court of Appeal decision means that a by-law prohibiting pets is not likely to be valid. This means if an owners corporation applies to NCAT to enforce a “no pets” by-law through an order requiring a pet to be removed, NCAT will likely dismiss the application.
The sensible course is for any owners corporation that has a “no pets” by-law to replace the by-law with a new by-law that either restrict the keeping of pets or permits pets. Any new by-law should include reasonable conditions regulating the keeping of pets.
Happy to assist if needed.
Adrian Mueller
Partner + Senior Lawyer
JS Mueller & Co Lawyers
E: [email protected]
P: 02 9562 1266
Disclaimer: The information contained in this article is provided for your personal information only. It is not meant to be legal or professional advice nor should it be used as a substitute for such advice. You should seek legal advice for your specific circumstances before relying on any information herein. Contact JS Mueller & Co for any required legal assistance.
This post appears in Strata News #424.
Question: I’m in the process of purchasing an apartment. Can I get assurance pet approval will be granted before I buy the property?
I’m looking to buy an apartment. Whenever I ask if the building allows pets, I get told that strata has to grant permission once I’ve moved in. I already have pets in my rental property and can’t risk buying somewhere and then being told I can’t have them. Any advice?
Answer: Whilst some strata committees are willing to consider applications for pets prior to purchase, in reality, most pet applications are not considered until after settlement.
Whilst some strata committees are willing to consider applications for pets prior to purchase, in reality, most pet applications are not considered until after settlement.
As a result, the best thing you can do is your due diligence.
First, when obtaining the contract for sale, get your solicitor to review the by-laws to see whether or not the by-laws allow pets and if so, what are the requirements for keeping pets and if there are any restrictions or limitations i.e. size, breed, species etc.
Secondly, make enquiries with the strata manager (and if possible a member of the committee) if the building is actually pet friendly, if there are other pets in the building and if the pet application is likely to be approved. This is because there are some buildings that have by-laws allowing pets, yet have ‘no pets’ policies and refuse all applications for pets.
David Bannerman
Bannermans Lawyers
E: [email protected]
T: 02 9929 0226
This post appears in Strata News #420.
Question: Are bylaws allowed to specifically prohibit ownership of dogs whilst cats and other animals are subject to approval?
The bylaws in my building require pets (except for fish) to be approved by the strata committee. However there is a specific clause which prohibits dogs (with the exception of guidance & hearing assistance dogs).
Are the bylaws allowed to specifically prohibit ownership of only dogs whilst cats and other animals are subject to approval?
Answer: We have seen such by-laws and in our experience they arose due to issues the strata committees had with existing dogs
We have seen such by-laws and in our experience they arose due to issues the strata committees had with existing dogs, in particular barking and soiling the common property.
Under the 2015 strata legislation, by-laws may not be harsh, unconscionable or oppressive and such a by-law may be invalidated by the Tribunal on application, noting also that the owners corporation/by-law cannot prohibit a disability animal (as referred to in section 9 of the Disability Discrimination Act 1992).
Leanne Habib
Premium Strata
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P: 02 9281 6440
This post appears in the October 2020 edition of The NSW Strata Magazine.
Question: We are about to sign a rental agreement for an apartment. Other residents have pets, but our owners corporation has rejected our application for 2 dogs. Is this legal?
My application for a rental apartment was successful. I paid the deposit, the bond and was about to sign the lease. The apartment building is pet friendly, the current tenants have a dog and a cat and another apartment have 2 dogs living with them.
I received a phone call today saying that owners corporation had rejected our application for 2 dogs to reside in the apartment. The other people with 2 dogs were allowed as one of the dogs was old and terminally ill. We are in the EXACT same situation with one of our dogs dying from cancer but they still rejected our application.
How is this legal?
We had to cancel a holiday we had booked for 1 year as the move in date and holiday clashed.
Anyone know if we can challenge this decision?
Answer: You need consent from both your landlord and the owners corporation to keep a dog in the building.
Irrespective if:
- the building is pet friendly;
- there are other pets in the building; or
- the by-laws allow for pets,
you need consent from both your landlord and the owners corporation to keep a dog in the building.
From your email below, it appears that the owners corporation has refused your pet application. As a result, there may be grounds under the by-law to challenge this decision.
It is hard to comment further without seeing the by-laws in question, however we specialise in disputes of this nature and could assist if you would like for us to provide a fee proposal.
Feel free to reach out on 02 9929 0226.
Matthew Jenkins
Bannermans Lawyers
E: [email protected]
T: 02 9929 0226
This post appears in Strata News #404.
Question: Does pet approval come with the apartment? If someone else moves into the apartment are they automatically approved to have two dogs if the previous person had two dogs?
Does pet approval come with the apartment? If someone else moves into the apartment are they automatically approved to have two dogs if the previous person had two dogs?
Then another approval question, that’s been around is ‘if I had approval for a dog and the dog passes away, and I get another dog, do I have to get approval for the new dog or if I already got approval for a dog?
Answer: Normally the approval is with the animal, not with the apartment
Conditions around keeping pets should be uniform. The chairperson or the treasurer shouldn’t get to have five dogs and everyone else can only have one. It’s around governance. You must have rules for everyone so that its really clear that you know what the criteria is and you know what you need to do if things start going awry.
Rod Smith
The Strata Collective
E: [email protected]
T: 02 9879 3547
This post appears in Strata News #390.
Question: Due to complaints from one neighbour, our strata is trying to take us to court over our small dog. Other neighbours confirm the dog is fine. Do I have any right to keep the dog and not get taken to court?
Our strata is currently trying to take us to court over our small dog. We own the apartment and the dog is under 10kgs.
There have been complaints from one apartment underneath us. Other neighbours have stated that the dog doesn’t bother them.
Do I have any right to keep the dog and not get taken to court?
Answer: What you need to do first is check the by-laws that apply to your scheme.
As for stopping the court action, you could remove the dog from the premises (though this step is unlikely to be a desirable one).
If the court action proceeds, you should seek advice from a strata lawyer to establish the pet position of your building and advise you as to whether or not the by-law is valid and enforceable.
Leanne Habib
Premium Strata
E: [email protected]
P: 02 9281 6440
This post appears in Strata News #361.
Question: The previous lot owner had approval for a dog. I’ve just moved in. Does the pet approval apply to me or do I need to submit a new request for approval so I can have my dog at the unit?
I am the new lot owner of a strata property. The previous owner had approval for a dog. Does the approval still apply now I am the new owner?
The strata manager is telling me:
- I do not have approval for my dog
- the previous pet approval applied only to the last lot owner
- any new owners need to submit a request for approval.
Is this the standard ruling?
Answer: Generally, approval for a dog is dog specific and you will need to apply for approval to have your dog at the unit.
Depending on the by-laws applicable to your scheme, as a general proposition, approval for a dog is dog specific and does not attach to the lot per see.
So, the strata manager is likely correct and we recommend you comply with your by-laws and make an application in accordance with same.
On the upside, the fact that a dog previously resided there may assist as an argument that you should be permitted to have one too.
Leanne Habib
Premium Strata
E: [email protected]
P: 02 9281 6440
This post appears in Strata News #336.
Question: I have 3 dogs in a 2 bedroom apartment. I only have approval for one pet. I’ve received a letter about one of the dogs barking and told to remove one of the dogs. What can I do?
I live in a 2 bedroom apartment with 3 dogs. I recently received a complaint from the owners corporation regarding barking dogs.
Apparently one of my dogs would be extremely excited every time we walk past the unit to go for our daily walk. The other 2 hardly make any noise.
The letter states that the Strata committee would only allow 2 animals and insists I remove one of my dogs from the apartment. I only have approval for one dog. I didn’t know I needed approval for each pet.
What can I do? Can I get approval to keep all 3 of my furbabies in the unit? I have till the end of the month.
Answer: Other occupants should be able to enjoy their property without the impacted of noise caused by one owner / occupant.
This could be a difficult proposition. I think that the Owners Corporation would only allow 3 dogs if there was a history of good behaviour from the dogs in the past. The fact that they have given you until the end of the month suggests to me that they have concerns with the noise.
Can I suggest you speak to your vet about strategies to stop your dog barking? You can communicate this to your strata manager. As you start to put these strategies in place, your strata may agree to an extension of the one month deadline and review your application at a later date.
That being said, many people including me would consider keeping three dogs in a 2 bedroom apartment to be too many dogs for the space. It is important as a strata manager to make sure that the rest of the strata occupants enjoyment of their property is not adversely impacted by the noise of one owner / occupant.
Rod Smith
The Strata Collective
E: [email protected]
T: 02 9879 3547
This article is for reference purposes only and is not intended to be a comprehensive review of the developments in the law and practice or to cover all aspect of the subject matter. It does not constitute legal or other advice and should not be relied upon this way. Readers should take legal or other advice before applying the information containing in this publication.
This post on appears in Strata News #351.
Question: The Strata Committee plans to rescind our Keeping of Pets bylaw. Do 75% of owners need to agree? Can an owner challenge the rescinding of Pets bylaw?
Our Strata Committee is planning on placing a motion at our next AGM to rescind the Keeping of Pets bylaw. Currently, we are allowed to keep either 1 bird, 1 fish, 1 cat or 1 small dog under 10kgs.
This motion is in reaction to a tenant breaking this bylaw. This, I believe is the only breach that has occurred in our building in the last 5 years.
What are the steps they must follow in order for this to occur? Is it true they would need 75% of owners agreeing to the change? Can an owner challenge the rescinding of the by-law?
Answer: A special resolution would need to be passed to change the existing pet by-law..
Procedure to change by-law
The procedure for changing a by-law is in section 141 of the Strata Schemes Management Act 2015 (SSMA).
A special resolution would need to be passed to change the existing pet by-law. A special resolution will be passed at the meeting if not more than 25% of the value of the votes are cast against the resolution. The value of a vote is the unit entitlement amount.
Removal of animals under existing by-law
If the owners corporation wishes to remove an animal which is not permitted under the existing by-law, an application can be made to the Tribunal under section 156 of the SSMA. If an animal is being kept in accordance with the existing by-law but the animal is causing a nuisance or hazard, or unreasonably interfering with the use or enjoyment of another lot or common property, an application can be made to the Tribunal for an order to remove the animal under section 158 of the SSMA.
Ban on pets
If the proposal is to remove the existing by-law and replace it with a by-law which completely prohibits pets, you can put forward an argument at the AGM that such a by-law would be invalid pursuant to s139 of the SSMA. Section 139 of the SSMA provides that a by-law must not be harsh, unconscionable or oppressive.
Two recent Tribunal decisions have found that an outright prohibition on pets is invalid as being harsh, unconscionable and oppressive. See Yardy v Owners Corporation SP 57237 (decided on 19 February 2018) and McCormick & McGinness v The Owners – Strata Plan No. 2371 (decided 9 October 2019).
Seeking order to invalidate resolution
If any procedural matters at the AGM have not been complied with (for example incorrect voting or non-compliance with meeting notice requirements) you can apply to the Tribunal for an order invalidating the resolution (section 24 of the SSMA). The Tribunal may refuse to make an order if the failure the comply with the SSMA or regulations did not adversely affect any person or if the Tribunal considers the resolution would have been passed despite the failure of compliance.
If a by-law is passed prohibiting pets, you could also apply to the Tribunal under section 150
of the SSMA for an order invalidating the by-law on the basis it is harsh, unconscionable or oppressive.
Have a question about rescinding the keeping of pets bylaw or something to add to the article? Leave a comment below.
Emma Smythies
Special Counsel
Bugden Allen Lawyers
E: [email protected]
M: 0412 046 966
This article does not constitute legal or other advice and should not be relied upon this way. Readers should take legal or other advice before applying the information containing in this publication.
This post appears in Strata News #333.
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“…in the words of the court, a democratic will of the majority of owners doesn’t convert a democracy into a majoritarian dictatorship”…
Would this also apply to a jury verdict in court?….No, I don’t believe it would. So, is a unanimous jury verdict a majoritarian dictatorship?
Where does this leave owners / occupants who do not desire to live with animals in a strata unit complex?
Because-
a) they loathe dogs and or cats? or,
b) they have an inherent fear of dogs or cats because they were seriously bitten by a dog or a cat
in their past?
Isn’t unreasonable and oppressive to impose the presence and interfering behaviour of animals (such as dogs or cats) upon the enjoyment of living of other lot owners / occupants?
Will the Owners Corporation be liable for damages and injury to another owner/ occupant/ visitor by a dog, cat or a snake that has escaped its custodian’s unit onto common property?
Can the Owners Corporation impose a condition of approval that the animal strata lot owner / occupier submit to the Owners Corporation an annual Currency of Public Liability Insurance, Animal’s Health and Desexing Certificate from a qualified Vet, Proof of Dogs Registration and Micro chipping with the Council, at their own cost for continuance of approval keeping an animal in the strata unit and throughout the common property ground complex?
Can the Owners Corporation impose and pass on to the animal owner/occupier the difference in increased Strata Insurance Premium because of the risk that animals pose to other owners/occupiers?
I saw that “Any new by-law should include reasonable conditions regulating the keeping of pets..”
Does this mean a by law could require or ask an owner to have dog training prior to permission being granted? Eg to train it not to bark at everything before it is permitted to reside in the building? It’s not uncommon for dogs to bark at people walking by and all sorts of things.
Would that be considered harsh or unreasonable?
Section 49 (4) in the Act seems to refer to appointment of managing agents. I cannot find the text you quote under Options A & B in the Act online. There is a similar Section 5 in the Regulations online, but it is not the same as your version. Please advise the correct reference to the Act or Regulations as active now.
With thanks
Hi Josephine
We have removed the response you are referring to from the above Q&A due to the age of the post. This is the current section in schedule 3, Strata Schemes Management Regulations 2016 you have mentioned, I believe:
5 Keeping of animals
As mentioned at the beginning of this article, watch this space for updates. If you would like to more about the current state of pets in strata for NSW, join us for our upcoming WEBINAR: Pets in Strata Q&A on 12 March at 10 am AEDT.
What are the NSW laws about keeping “Restrictive” dogs such as Pit Bull terriers in Strata apartments, without the Owners consent, without the owners Corporation approval? We are in a 10-Lot Strata complex, all ground level. New tenants have brought in 2 Pit Bull Terriers. They let the dogs loose in the backyard sometimes unsupervised and the dogs roam on common property. What can the Owners Corporation do given that the new tenants are aggressive, use filthy loud language?
HI,
I submitted a written application for my dog in 2014, but recently we adopted another rescued dog. The neighbour was complaining to strata that my dogs have been making excessive barking, which I believed not. This is because I am mostly at home, my dogs don’t excessively bark (i.e. not for continuing 30 minutes, or any bark at night time). They do have reaction to posties and strangers walking in the building, but would stop straight away if I asked them to. The neighbour did not come to advise us anything, but they instead approached strata management, Now my concern is do strata have the rights to ask me to submit another written application again? Will they make me to remove my dog? How do I proof that my dogs did not excessively bark? What should I do in this situation? Thank you
Hi Adrian, Thanks for the guidance on the changing regs with pets in NSW Strata. We have a NSW Community Titled scheme consisting of 18 free-standing chalets on a 40 acre eco-tourism resort. The CMS establishes a rigid ‘Theme of the Resort’ as an environmentally sustainable eco-resort with protections for wildlife, with eco-educational signage and with independent eco-tourism accreditation and Land for Wildlife affiliations. The By Laws fully prohibits any owner’s or guest’s pets or domestic animals of any type being brought onto the site. On the odd occasion when a neighbour’s dog has started onto our common lot, our guests note the kangaroos & birds disappear in seconds from the otherwise wildlife-friendly environment. How is our committee going to respond if an owner (or guest) endeavours to rely on these changing pet arrangements to bring a domestic animal onto our site (the By Laws also prohibit any fencing between the 18 small development lots around each chalet and the rest of the common lot).
Weekend Australian (22/23/8/20) has a very interesting story on this whole topic running to several pages. The owner of a small dog who had problems in a swanky centre city (Sydney) appartment block complex.
Thanks for the information, Brian. For those with a subscription to The Australian, you can access the article here: Puddle sets off epic dog fight
The day her miniature schnauzer urinated in the lobby of her lavish Sydney apartment block is one of the most traumatic of Jo Cooper’s 30-plus years.
Hi I live in an apartment with my dog for a year and then the strata decided that the dog had to be under 17kg my dog weighed over when I told them I had been approved before I signed the lease the replied that I would be fined if I didn’t move. I was homeless for 2weeks before I found that apartment in the eastern suburbs of Sydney. I have since found a house but had to move to Blacktown because of this could I have fought this?
Interesting how the legal system in NSW has taken upon itself the power to overturn well established bylaws that exclude animals from buildings designed for human (not animal) habitation.
I like animals (I once had a pet in a home with an extensive backyard) but not in the context of a shared space – ie a Strata – where rights and obligations (remember them ?) mix . Lawyers, by and large, are not competent to decide what should or should not apply to peoples lived experience.
The legal fraternity often have a fragile relationship with the real world and the true needs of people living in a Strata environment.
The Parliament should do its job and abolish the Tribunal that caused this absurdity to arise.
Pets are allowed in Victoria.
If Owners Corporation has a problem, they need to take the case to the tribunal to ban pet and provide a reason.
Only reason a pet will be banned if it poses a risk (let off loose by owner on common property); or too noisy (barks at night – though this could be overruled if owner sends dog to training school).
Reason for allowing pets – single, young people are no longer the main client. There are numerous old people, families with young kids who live in apartments now. Also good for mental health etc etc.
I am happy for pets to remain as long as owner/tenant is responsible pet owner.
If you have received complaint/s from only one resident, or but a few residents, about your having a dog, then find out what it is exactly that they are objecting to in your having a dog, and whether ALL of the complaints are of the same ‘nature’.
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I have inherited a unit, that my cousin owned, (she passed in 2018) including her three cats, 1 of which has been there for 10 years, the others 4 years. It’s a unit with courtyard and yes the cats, generally live outside, but tend to stay in the boundaries, cause they are a little scared of strangers.
I have not had any complaints or letters asking me to remove the cats, but recently received a standard newsletter for the units, (all units got the newsletter) and in one small line, it said, Strictly no pets allowed.
I have seen numerous others in the complex, (which has over 200 units) walk in with smalls dogs,. cats in carriers.
So my question is, do I just continue living as we are and not say anything, until someone does say something, or do I bring it up with Strata and see what they say ?
I do have a hearing disability and found the cats are useful in alerting me if people are around or at the door, but they are obviously not assistance animals.
These units were built in 1997.
Hi, our strata is currently trying to take us to court over our small dog. We own the apartment and the dog is under 10kgs. There have been complaints from one apartment underneath us. Our neighbours have already stated that the dog doesn’t bother them. Do I have any right to keep the dog and not get taken to court?
Hi Astrid
We have responded to this question in the article above.
I am the new owner of a strata managed property that the previous owner had approval for a dog, does the approval still apply with me as the new owner? The strata manager is telling me that I do not have approval and only applies to the previous owner and any new owners need to get their own approval.
Is this standard ruling ?
Hi Ashleigh
We have answered this question in the main body of the post above.
what conditions can a person have a companion dog in an over 50’s village in NSW. The village has a no pets policy in it’s bylaws. If a person requires a companion dog and follows the requirement of the NSW registration rules regarding identifying the dog prior to 12 weeks old and registering it by 6 months of age. Does this involve online training for a period of say 2 years and would it be fair to say that the village owners should allow this dog under ? conditions as a tribunal hearing would most likely decide in the pet owners favour.
Hi Bruce
We have received this response from Leanne Habib, Premium Strata:
There is a scholarly article on this very subject: My Animal, my support, and my new home in a retirement village: disability discrimination, assistance animals and old age
In our view, the village may be able to exclude companion animals but not assistance animals.
Interesting is that the Making NSW #1 Again paper had option C for pets, which was a ban on all animals.
That option got dropped. Perhaps due to the High Court stating that by-laws are regulatory, not prohibitive.
Swan Hill Shire v Bradbury [1937] HCA 15; (1937) 56 CLR 746 (7 April 1937).
A case brought to the attention of the MInister of the day.
If an OC has a prohibitive position on pets then the review gives owners an opportunity to have a crack at an unreasonable (prohibitive) position. There is also the long held view that if the Parliament intended to tread on ‘fundamental’ rights, such as ownership of property, and a pet is property, then express language is needed. The power to make by-laws is very general and considering the authorities in relation to the need for express language to interfere with basic rights it seems any prohibitive by-law that denies basic ownership can be challenged.
Then there is the Cavoodle case from Victoria where Victoria’s equivalent of NCAT deemed a by-law prohibiting dogs to discriminate against dog owners.
So if an OC has a prohibitive pet by law it seems it is potentially ultra vires as it is not regulatory, it seems it treads on the basic freedom to own property and it seems it is discriminatory against pet owners.